LordPatamon

Asi es. Despues de haberlo estado pensando largo tiempo y luego de ver que cierto grupo PataGato en face estaba algo inactivo, decidí crear una pagina de comunidad PataGato en facebook. La pagina apenas la acabo de crear hace unas horas, por lo que apenas va despegando, pero estoy seguro que con su ayuda, la pagina tendra su buena actividad. Asi que fans PataGato pasen y diviertanse

La unica regla es no insultar a otras parejas ni personajes, sobretodo no insultar ni a Veemon ni al VeeGato. Hay que demostrar que podemos ser educados

Sin mas aqui esta el link a la pagina:

www.facebook.com/PataGato4Ever
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That's right. After thinking about it for some time now, and also, after seeing that certain PataGato group on facebook was kinda inactive lately, I decided to create a community page for PataGato on facebook. The page I barely created it a few hours ago, and thus it is barely waking up, but I'm sure that with your help the page will have a good activity. So all of you PataGato fans come in and have fun

The only rule is don't insult/bash other couples nor characters, mostly don't insult Veemon and VeeGato. Let's show that we can be polite and well behaved

So without anything else to say, here is the link to the page:

www.facebook.com/PataGato4Ever

Este Journal sera escrito en ingles y en español/This Journal will be in english and spanish.

Español/Spanish.

Pues bien. Queria comentar sobre algo, que no habia visto antes en todos mis años de fan de digimon al menos entre estas dos parejas y a este nivel. Se trata de una guerra que al principio comenzó con dos personas nada mas. Un fan VeeGato y uno PataGato. La historia es larga e involucra mas que solo las parejas pero yo no estoy en posición de relatar la parte mas personal no relacionada a dichas parejas (Se todos los detalles pero no dire nada por respeto a ambas partes.).

En fin. En relación a la guerra de las parejas, el fan PataGato atacó al fan VeeGato por msn, cosa que es la primera vez que escucho de ataques asi por msn al menos con estas parejas (usualmente las guerras de parejas son en foros por decir un ejemplo). El fan VeeGato obviamente y con justa razón se enojó muchisimo y comenzó a contra-atacar. Ambos estaban en una posición de querer "Destruir" al otro y hacer que olviden a su respectiva pareja favorita.

Esto comenzó en Octubre de 2011. El fan PataGato no se conecta seguido, pues no tiene PC en su casa y mucho menos internet. Eso es lo que mas me extraña, porque el fan VeeGato a pesar que el otro se desaparecia por largos periodos, seguia muy pero muy enojado.

Durante todo este tiempo yo he intentado calmar a ambos y solo lo lograba parcialmente, pues tan pronto el fan PataGato regresaba, las cosas se encendian de nuevo. Llegó al punto en que el fan VeeGato escribió un poema que publicó en otra pagina en donde ponia en mal a Patamon.

En fin. Recientemente, las cosas se han ido saliendo de control, pues ahora en otras paginas de fanarts he visto ataques en contra de Patamon y de Veemon. El tipo de pagina es de esas de contenido hentai, y en los dibujos tanto VeeGato como PataGato ahi, hay quienes en comentarios anonimos (no hay nombre de usuario, solo dice anonymous1, anonymous2, etc.) Se han soltado diciendo cosas de que Gatomon ama a Veemon, o Gatomon es de Patamon, o que Veemon es gay, o que Patamon es gay.

Anyhow. Recently, the things in my opinion have gone out of control. This because now on other fanart websites, I have seen attacks against Patamon and Veemon. The website I saw those attacks is one of hentai content, and on the VeeGato and PataGato works there, I have seen people who in anonymous comments (no username, instead it says anonymous1, anonymous2, etc.) Have been posting things like Gatomon loves Veemon or Gatomon is Patamon's or Veemon is gay or Patamon is gay.

Los fans VeeGato que comentaron son todos amigos del fan VeeGato, fuera de eso ningun otro fan de VeeGato que no fuera amigo del primero comentó.

Esa imagen pasó sin pena ni gloria, de hecho el fan PataGato se desaparecio luego de poner esa imagen y no regresó sino hasta como mes y medio despues. De nuevo otro ataque. El fan PataGato atacó al fan VeeGato en algunos trabajos que el fan VeeGato publicó aqui. Cabe mencionar que el fan PataGato solo ha atacado a ese fan VeeGato al menos hasta donde yo se. No he oido mencionar que haya atacado a otros.

Ahora, la imagen Anti-VeeGato de nuevo ayer tuvo un comentario nuevo de otro fan VeeGato y que es hermano del otro fan VeeGato, obviamente enojado y agarrandola contra el PataGato. La verdad ese comentario no era necesario cuando el fan PataGato de nuevo no se le ha visto (al menos yo no lo he visto) en mas de un mes, ya va a ser casi mes y medio que no se le ve al fan PataGato, y yo me pregunto. ¿Para qué seguir comentando en esa imagen? ¿Para qué seguir provocando que el otro ataque de vuelta?

El fan VeeGato se rehusaba a bloquear al fan PataGato aqui en Deviantart hasta que su novia lo convención (mil gracias por eso). Yo la verdad no se por que ese afan de seguir haciendole caso al otro. Ninguno de los dos quiere ceder y honestamente ambos le dan mala imagen a sus parejas favoritas.

Y ahora encima parece ser que fans de VeeGato/Veemon y fans de PataGato/Patamon quieren iniciar una guerra, pues ahora resulta que unos insultan al personaje favorito de otros.

Siento yo que esto ya ha sido demasiado, la verdad se me hace ridiculo todo esto. Estan como cuando habia las guerras de Takari vs Daikari o la de Sorato vs Taiora, o en otros animes las de Naruto como NaruSaku (Naruto/Sakura) y SasuSaku (Sasuke/Sakura).

¿Por qué no puede haber cordura? Lo peor es que la mayoria de los fans no son niños chiquitos, la mayoria son de 15-16 años para arriba, pero se pelean como niños de primaria.

Espero sus opiniones sobre esto. Gracias.


Ingles/English.


Well. I wanted to comment about something. Something that I've never seen before on all of my years as a Digimon fan. At least not with this two couples at this level. It is about a war that in the beginning started between just 2 people. One is a VeeGato fan and the other is a PataGato fan. The issue is long because it involves more than just the pairings, but I'm not in position to tell the personal part that is not related to the mentioned pairings (I know all the details, but I won't say anything in respect to both parties involved).

Anyhow. About the pairings war, the PataGato fan attacked the VeeGato fan through msn. Something that it is the first time I hear about attacks related to couples through msn, at least related to the mentioned couples here (Usually couple wars are seen on forums for saying an example). The VeeGato fan obviously and with fair reason got really angry and started to counter-attack. Both of them were on a position of wanting to "Destroy" the other and make the other to forget his favorite couple.

This started back in October, 2011. The PataGato fan, doesn't gets online often, this because he doesn't has a PC at home, much less internet. That is something that I find more strange, because the VeeGato fan remained really really angry even when the PataGato fan wasn't around for long time periods.

During all this time, I have been trying to calm them both and I only managed to calm them partially since as soon the PataGato fan returned, the issue sparked again into a new heated arguement between them. It came to the point in which the VeeGato fan wrote a poem in which he bashed Patamon.

Now back to the first issue. The PataGato fan around 3 months ago registered on this site and he posted an Anti-VeeGato picture which is nothing more than a VeeGato fanart with a big red X on it. Obviously the VeeGato fan got really really angry, more like he got royally pissed off. That picture got a few comments, most from the VeeGato fan and other VeeGato fans that were really upset about it, and some comments were mine trying to calm the things down. There were other comments too, but those weren't really important since they weren't anything that could add to the war.

Ahora, el fan PataGato hace 3 meses se registró aqui, y puso una imagen Anti-VeeGato, que no es nada mas que un fanart VeeGato con una gran cruz roja encima. Obviamente el fan VeeGato se enojó demasiado, se enfureció mejor dicho. La imagen tuvo algunos comentarios, la mayoria del fan VeeGato y otros fans VeeGato muy molestos y unos mios tratando de calmar la situación. Hubo algunos otros tambien, pero no son de mucha importancia porque no hubo nada serio ahi.

The VeeGato fans who commented are all friends of the VeeGato fan that got attacked by the PataGato fan back in October. Other than that, no other VeeGato fan commented on it.

That picture kinda went without much issue, I mean it got pretty much ignored by everyone else at least commentary-wise. In fact, the PataGato fan desappeared after posting that image and didn't return till around a month and half later. Again another attack. The PataGato fan ataqued the VeeGato fan on some of the VeeGato fan's works published here. I have to add that the PataGato fan only has attacked that VeeGato fan. At least as far I know. I haven't heard that he has attacked any other VeeGato fan.

Now, that Anti-VeeGato picture again got a comment yesterday from another VeeGato fan who is brother of the VeeGato fan that has been dealing with the PataGato fan's attacks and obviously angry and insulting PataGato since he didn't even insulted the PataGato fan, he only said he doesn't cares about PataGato but using very bad language. In all honesty, I felt that comment wasn't necesary since the PataGato fan has been absent during almost month and half (at least I haven't seen him) and I ask. What's the object of keep commenting on that image? Why make that the PataGato fan could end attacking again?

The VeeGato fan also rehused to block the PataGato fan here on Deviantart, till his girlfriend convinced him (thank you very much for that). I really don't know why that necesity of keep attacking each other? None of them wants to stop and honestly both are only giving a bad image to their favorite pairings.

And now, it seems that VeeGato/Veemon fans and PataGato/Patamon fans want to star a war, since they now are insulting each other's favorite character.

I feel this has gone too far and enough is enough. Truth to be told I feel this is ridiculous. This is like those wars of Takari vs Daikari or Sorato vs Taiora, or in other animes for example the Naruto ones like NaruSaku (Naruto/Sakura).

Why things like this have to happen? Worse is that most fans aren't little kids. Most of them are 15-16 years old and older, but they argue like elementary school kids.

Please give your opinions. Thank you.

Hello again to another journal of the Patamon.

Today I want to talk about Patamon when it comes to romance, but more specifically when it comes to Gatomon.

You see, recently I came across a few VeeGato fans (not here but on another site), who for them VeeGato is a happy couple and funny to write. That is fine with me, no issues with that at all.

The issue comes when they say that PataGato is hard to write, because you have to change Patamon's personality to fit Gatomon, and that's where my doubts come in place.

First doubt is why Patamon's personality has to change to fit Gatomon while for them Veemon is okay for her in the way he is? In my own opinion I see not much difference between Veemon and Patamon personality wise since both are so loyal, friendly, playful, funny, etc. If something the only difference would be the way they carry out those traits individually.

And even if Patamon's personality has to be changed to fit Gatomon, I don't think changing him a bit is bad as long as his personality from the series doesn't gets lost. After all, doesn't love makes you do things you usually don't do? Doesn't loves change the way of viewing things?

A gradual change without straying away from the base personality is not bad. After all as time passes they learn new things, so they can't be stuck with the same personality forever. All opposite, the personality gets molded as one grows since we start to see things different as we learn new things.

Now my other doubt is that another VeeGato fan said that Patamon wouldn't be able to make Gatomon smile because he is too devoted to TK. As in that he is always focused in protect TK and such, and thus he wouldn't be able to handle protectng TK and a love relation.

I find that kinda unfair because TK will grow up, he will make his own life, so Patamon stuck as a sort of nanny of TK always behind him feels kinda mean. I mean, I think Patamon has right to have his own life, not forgetting TK of course, but he has right to have his own privacy too just like any of the other characters.

Still I feel some fans seem to think that Patamon can't have some changes because they think it will take away how he is on the series but that's not true. It can be handled perfectly with a good effort, but for how I see things, some fans like to go for the easy things rather than take the challenge and work with complex characters because they think they got a wrong concept about change their personalities.

Anyhow, I want to see your thoughts about this ^^

Goodnight or Good day depending on your timezone.

Here's yours truly Patamon with another interesting journal.

You may have wonder why that kind of title for this journal and the I will answer to that.

You see, recently I have noticed how some fans tend to think that Matt betrayed his friends or at least betrayed Tai. You know, that fight they had in season 1 when Cherrymon brainwashed Matt.

They seem to think Matt betrayed Tai because of that. I understand Matt made a mistake, he let himself to be brainwashed, dragged Gabumon into fight though Gabumon did it on his own will due to him being loyal to Matt, but I didn't see it precisely as a betrayal but as a misunderstanding due to Matt being confused and also feeling TK didn't need him and feeling that TK saw Tai more as a big brother than him.

Now this take us to TK, it seems some fans think that just because TK is Matt's brother, he is liable to betray Davis like Matt betrayed Tai, but why TK has to follow his brother's steps? Can't TK be different?

Now, the digidestined aren't perfect, all of them made mistake at one point or another.

Mimi for example when she was Princess of those Gekomon, she did send Tai, Joe, Agumon, Gomamon and even her own digimon to jail, not to mention she started to act all arrogant just wanting to be served when she had promised the Gekomon to help them to awake ShogunGekomon.

Tai thinking they were like in a videogame caused Sora to end kidnapped by Datamon, before that he pressured Agumon to digivolve to Ultimate resulting in SkullGreymon.

Davis tried to trick TK with that fake coin to send him back home so he could be the sole hero who would rescue Kari. There I have to point that Kari and Gatomon needed help and all Davis could think is in try to be the sole hero to rescue her.

Also in the movie Diaboromon's Revenge (Diaboromon Strikes Back in Japan), Davis ignored Izzy's indications for him and Ken to continue the capturing of those Keramon who escaped and even dragged Yolei in the mix making her open a gate to the net (it was obvious that Izzy wouldn't open a gate for him when he gave him clear instructions of what he and Ken had to do).

TK made the mistake of let the incident with Angemon to get him react like he did when he fought Ken and when Angemon was fighting BlackWarGreymon.

Those are some examples, all of them at one point or another made mistakes but it doesn't means they're traitors. In a humble opinion, the fans misunderstand the characters and it results in things that aren't true.

Now I'm not saying they have to like all of the characters, but from not liking to hating with a passion there is a big difference, and more if the reasons have little or no sense.

That's just my own thoughts, no offence to anyone but if you want you can leave your thoughts on a comment ^^

Okay. Today I want to share something that happened to me in the recent months.

First let's go with the false accusation. around two months ago or so, on a Digimon forum I'm admin of, I had posted one of my fics. The fic which is one of my best works is titled Gatomon's Baby. A few of my friends here on DA have read it already since a few of them I met them on fanfiction.net where I did posted the fic first.

Anyhow, back in April 12, Someone out of nowhere appeared and accused me of that I stole her idea and turned it into my fic Gatomon's Baby. The girl in question said she had the idea for 9 years and that I came and stole it. Now it is impossible that I did steal her idea because of several reasons:

1. That I based my fic off another PataGato fic that never got completed back.

2. I first posted my fic back in 2003, that is 8 years ago.

3. I never knew that girl who accused me of plagiarism. I never saw her in my life before till she appeared to accuse me two months ago, not to mention she posted the first chapter of her fic on fanfiction.net and accused me of stealing her idea on the summary of her fic saying that she slightly changed the plot because I stole her idea but it wasn't a slight change, it was a full scale change since her fic has no similarity with mine, not to mention she planned to add some new adventure in which Gatomon and Veemon's unborn would be in danger.

4. Her fic was a VeeGato fic. What a coincidence that who accused me said her idea was for a VeeGato fic, one of PataGato's rival couples (the other being WizGato talking about the 3 most popular pairings involving Gatomon)

5. I did credit the original author of the other PataGato fic I based my fic of all the time and I never had any issues about plagiarism in the 8 years my fic has.

So there you go with the reasons. I tried to contact her and she never replied to me. However I thank all the fans who supported me because actually no one believed her about that I stole her idea.

Now for the annoying reviewers. That happened from a few weeks ago to this day. You see, besides my english fics, I also write fics in spanish language (spanish being my native language as I am from Mexico). A friend of mine translated one of my one-shot fics to spanish. The fic itself is called My Sweet Gatomon which in spanish will be Mi Dulce Gatomon.

The fic on a spanish forum where it got posted first got quite a good acceptation, so I decided to post it on fanfiction.net.  The translated fic got 3 good reviews, then time passed and one day I got an annonymous review (those reviews are from readers that doesn't have account on ff.net or didn't log in and left the review in unsigned mode) by a guy named SephirotMaster saying that the fic as well the rest of my fics were shit and that I don't have capacity to write.

Now I understand if he didn't like my words, I know you can make everyone happy, but he didn't put what was what he didn't like of my fics, instead he ended the review telling me to make everyone a favor and stop writing.

I removed that review (fanfiction.net allows us to remove unsigned reviews), and after adding a note on my profile bio about that guy, I ignored that and moved on, after all I had more important things to do like my mom's recovery after she got her left breast removed due to a breast cancer (she is doing it amazingly well thank god). Time passed and two days ago I got another review on Mi Dulce Gatomon, again unsigned and didn't had name of the reviewer and the review only said that the fic was shit. Again I removed that review and ignored it, but tonight just minutes ago I got another review on that fic again unsigned, and again from the same guy, this time having as reviewer name "YouknowwhoXDD" but in spanish of course which the name he put in spanish was "YaSabesQuienxDDD" and again said that my fic was shit. Again I removed the review and left another note on my profile bio directed to him since I know he is pretty much a stalker and will see it there.

So I just want to know what in the hell they want from me? If they're jealous then grow up and get a life! I can take that they don't like my fics, but accusing me of plagiarism or simply saying my fics are shit without even explaining what didn't liked about my writing is something I won't stand!

And if they think I will give up, then they're dead wrong, I have faced slandering about that I supposedly gave ideas to bash digimon characters which lasted since around August, 2010 till beginning of 2011, I got attacked because of an adult fic I wrote 8 years ago, and I have managed to move on thanks to that I have support of great friends, so I won't give up now.

I'm sure all this is mere envy they have. I have been Digimon fan since year 2000, that is 11 years now. Slowly I started to become more proactive as fan, writing fics, then building a shrine website dedicated to Takari and PataGato with its own forum included (forum that is still up and running 8 years later. I admit the activity on it is low but there are posts everyday still, and I keep adding new things to it every now and then so I'm just glad it is still working), I became member on several sites, obviously Deviantart being one of them, I joined Youtube in 2006, I have been part of several forums, etc.

I only did all what I did for fun, to share what I like with others. Not even on my wildest dreams I imagined I would end becoming popular. My fic Gatomon's Baby in it's 3rd edition with mere 4 chapters posted so far on fanfiction.net has gained 120 reviews, almost 200 members at fanfiction.net have me on their favorite authors lists, Gatomon's Baby has been favorited by nearly 50 people. Some times I feel this very unreal, but the numbers are there, the good reviews, the support, the good friendships I have made thanks to all this.

That's why I feel some people is just envious and resort to attack me in different ways with hopes in that I will give up, but if my mom didn't gave up about her breast cancer and managed to go through it and is doing it really fine (even the doctors are amazed by her response to the treatments), then I won't let all that people who keeps attacking me to see me defeated.